Jet a1

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Rocco
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Re: Jet a1

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I don't know if it's still the case but at one time, there was a different between civilian jet-A1 and fuel used by the military in their high performance jets.
F.C.
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Re: Jet a1

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Mike, If that MSDS is accurate to the product you're talking about I think you'll be ok. Ventillation, of course, always a necessity when doing furnace runs. Don't be siphoning the crap through a hose into other containers, though... HAHAHA... (ahhhh the memories and tunnel vision ( near blindness )) of my youth when I done such stupid shit). Looks to me the fuel you got is no different than the fuel used in helicopters in Nam. Hell, any fuel is a skin irritant, as well lung issue if you inhale too much of its vapor. This product's MSDS doesn't list it as a carcinogin causing cancer which regular gasoline does. How many vapors of that shit have we inhaled and/or consumed during siphoning over the past 60 years... LOL... Kerosine is the main dominant ingredient. This stuff is super refined. The engines it was created for is now outdated which is why this stuff was given away rather than submitted to a land fill or HAZMAT deposit site which would have cost them bookooo bucks. You scored, my friend. Be careful with it. It does have a hidden, subtle, vapor ignitian (low flash point) whereas the vapors are heavier than air and will travel low on the floor and migrate to ignitian sources like a gas water heater, wall outlets, and such. Plus, it speaks a lot about how suseptible the vapors are to static discharge. Be very mindful of that... seriously!!

And while I'm on the bandwaggon here... let's broach the subject of zinc dust. Now on one hand, Zinc dust isn't all that bad for us to absorbe/inhale/in moderation. Fact is... anyone doing a lot of casting which smelts down alloys with zinc content (which all bronzes do have) will rarely catch a cold. That's a good thing!! :D What I discovered one evening was my lack of house keeping in that those zinc dusts collected and accumulated significantly throughout my shop and once a spark was created, that little amber flung from a grinder which ended up under a work bench, lit that zinc dust up and I watched in amazement as the flame trail it created come to life and began to skittle throughout my shop in multiple directions, under counters, behind shelves, taking on a life of its own (as it were) to where I almost lost control of getting it to stop. Weirdest thing I ever experienced. As though the flame, itself, had an intelligence. I never let my guard down since. KEEP YOUR SHOPS CLEAN!!! Open the bay doors and blow the whole place out with compressed air, at least, once a week.

Ok... Rant over!! :lol:
mite5255
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Re: Jet a1

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F.C. wrote:Mike, If that MSDS is accurate to the product you're talking about I think you'll be ok. Ventillation, of course, always a necessity when doing furnace runs. Don't be siphoning the crap through a hose into other containers, though... HAHAHA... (ahhhh the memories and tunnel vision ( near blindness )) of my youth when I done such stupid shit). Looks to me the fuel you got is no different than the fuel used in helicopters in Nam. Hell, any fuel is a skin irritant, as well lung issue if you inhale too much of its vapor. This product's MSDS doesn't list it as a carcinogin causing cancer which regular gasoline does. How many vapors of that shit have we inhaled and/or consumed during siphoning over the past 60 years... LOL... Kerosine is the main dominant ingredient. This stuff is super refined. The engines it was created for is now outdated which is why this stuff was given away rather than submitted to a land fill or HAZMAT deposit site which would have cost them bookooo bucks. You scored, my friend. Be careful with it. It does have a hidden, subtle, vapor ignitian (low flash point) whereas the vapors are heavier than air and will travel low on the floor and migrate to ignitian sources like a gas water heater, wall outlets, and such. Plus, it speaks a lot about how suseptible the vapors are to static discharge. Be very mindful of that... seriously!!

And while I'm on the bandwaggon here... let's broach the subject of zinc dust. Now on one hand, Zinc dust isn't all that bad for us to absorbe/inhale/in moderation. Fact is... anyone doing a lot of casting which smelts down alloys with zinc content (which all bronzes do have) will rarely catch a cold. That's a good thing!! :D What I discovered one evening was my lack of house keeping in that those zinc dusts collected and accumulated significantly throughout my shop and once a spark was created, that little amber flung from a grinder which ended up under a work bench, lit that zinc dust up and I watched in amazement as the flame trail it created come to life and began to skittle throughout my shop in multiple directions, under counters, behind shelves, taking on a life of its own (as it were) to where I almost lost control of getting it to stop. Weirdest thing I ever experienced. As though the flame, itself, had an intelligence. I never let my guard down since. KEEP YOUR SHOPS CLEAN!!! Open the bay doors and blow the whole place out with compressed air, at least, once a week.

Ok... Rant over!! :lol:
Thanks for rant Frank ;) and the advise, I appreciate your help. They still use the outdated engines here frank, where my son in-law works they still operate the bell 204's, 206's and 214's damn great old work horses they are, plus more modern helicopter's, they have about 35 aircraft all up with a few fixed wing in the mix

Zinc dust now that brings back memories :lol:, when I was a teenager we would make flares and smoke bombs by mixing various amounts of sulfur to slow the burn, and if you added enough sulfur you got heaps of smoke :lol: used it straight it made a fantastic flare....we would put about a inch or two in a 450grm ( 16 oz ) tin and at night it would light up the whole local rubbish dump at night :lol: ....one day we mixed petrol with the zinc dust to a thick paste put it in a tin, went down the river bank and buried it in the sand, we lit the fuse and ran to what we considered was a safe distance and waited MAN OH MAN what a mushroom cloud :lol: :lol:
My work area is well ventilated, like no walls :lol:


Keep the shop clean, your starting to sound like my minister for war peace and finances :lol: :lol:, I'm the first to admit to being a messy bugger and it drives my wife absolutely nuts, I do clean up every now and then when I end up with to much stuff about my feet and I start to worry about triping over and falling into another pile of ( for want of another word lol )shit

Mike
When life gets tough, remember: You were the strongest sperm :)
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