Cincinnati Shaper

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F.C.
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1.) Fill gate needs to be connected direct to that hump piece next to your riser gate (smack dab on top and center), increase the fill gate (it'll be a shorter length this way) half again more in diameter. 2.) Give your pour cup some Mass equal to the size of your largest section of cast (or larger if you have enough metal. This will serve as a reservoir to continue to provide metal while the rest chills. 3.) Put your riser/vent where you, now, have the filler gate. You can even reduce the size of that riser, it's only to give some ventillation to mold is all.

Gating and reservoiring in this manner will allow for your cast to "directionally" chill. What you have going on is... your main sprue, once the mold has been filled chills virtually just as fast as your riser did. Your rounded hump section on top chilled (with some puckers of its own, by the way) second. Your main chunk of cast product chilled last while sucking what it could from its smaller appendage. I wouldn't be surprised to see a crack between that main pucker and the sidewall of that humped appendage just beneath the surface of your casting.

If your flask will not allow sufficient depth to create a reservoir that size, pack a plastic bowl/tupperware with sand, whatever will give you room to carve the reservoir you need, first outlining it's dimension onto your packed sand mold surface and carving a recessed imprint of the bowl into the surface of your sand mold, then flip that packed bowl over and onto your carved out niche. Tap the bowl to free the sand, remove the bowl, gently (but firmly - without crushing your packed mold) press that sand block onto your mold surface (do not apply talc to either, by the way). This is called an "upset". It will give you the depth needed to carve a decent reservoir into and give your product some head pressure. At this point, using a narrow spoon, compress some hand distributed sand at the seam between the mold surface and the upset side wall. Next, Carve out what you need for reservoir size, then punch your spue gate, trowel down the inside of the reservoir with a spoon to smooth and pack loose sand. Have waiting a stand you can lift that cope section of mold and set onto so you don't have to flip it onto its side to clean things up before closing the mold. Simply blow diffused air from a compressor onto the mold face and onto the mold's top where the upset is located. Remove the pattern from the drag, clean that half of the mold up, then close the cope and drag together. Bet that does the trick :lol:

Another option would be to gate with a reservoir (as described above) directly into the center of that largest section and riser out direct center mass of that upper hump section. You will need to have your reservoir higher than the surface of that raised hump section. And in both cases described, your reservoir feed into the cast piece has to be as short as you can get it (and still give you room to put a saw blade to for later removal) and it also has to be wide enough to ensure it will not chill till your cast product does. Guaranteed, with this method, that riser will chill first, that hump section second (suck'n what it needs from that large piece) and your main section last draw'n what it needs from the reservoir. Clear as mud??? HAHAHA.... if you need a sketch let me know.
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got it will give it a try maybe tomorrow, the flask I used today was on the small side, and the crucible was big enough to hold what you see in the photo. will have to drag out a bigger one .

going to have to order a new A6 pretty soon as the one I have is getting pretty beat up from being like me old
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redid the part today only this time I did it in cast iron, it came out ok with the way I gated it this morning, not as much shrinkage as yesterday. still having a problem with surface defects not sure about whats causing them most of it will actually machine off but if I was to try to sell this it would have to have a better surface finish then this, I think some of it is cause by me not getting all the slag off the top before pouring, or from not having a helper to hold the crap back while pouring.

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here's the video, and I do have to say I really like the heated fuel burns much better.

and so far it looks like the parts going to be nice machinable iron.

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Started cutting on the casting last night, was having some troubles cutting the flat surface that you see in the photo but that changed after switching to the bar you see the business end of in the picture.

Most of the surface defects have been removed by machining.

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been having a few snags with machining this casting, specially the ratchet pin hole. But it looks like I may have figured out how to get it done. The hole I'm talking about is the one circled in blue.
The larger of the two blue circles is were I plan to remove about a 1/4 of and inch off the pattern so it won't stick out so far.

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Ok things look like they are turning around on this thing, put it back on the mill and got it lined up and instead of trying the methods I used first I stuck the boring head in and use a 1/2" diameter boring bar and was able to get the hole bored out to 5/8" for the pin and then about 11/16" deep for 3/4" X 16 tap.
One minor snag was I though I was going all the way thru and had clipped the top of the angle plate but I liked about a 1/16" going all the way thru, which is easy to fix.

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todays shaper part, one that I've been wanting to do for a while. Mold and Cast the Crank Handle in Bronze

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here's yesterdays casting with a little cleanup done on it. Still have a ways to go but its looking pretty good so far.

I stuck the carpenters pencil in beside the crank as a size comparison, the pencil has only been sharpened one time when I had to thin it down to put it in a radius marker.

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That looks really well done. Did it try to warp any?
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nope the lever part stayed straight. I had some problems with the first one that I made back in the summer but it was pattern problems with things glued up crooked and nothing to do with the casting part, although I did have some casting problems like core not venting and such.

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