Cincinnati Shaper

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Jammer
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Is AA down or am I just having issues? I was on there for a bit and then it went to database error.
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Pat and Glumpy have probably caused the server to overload. No its up and running I was just there.

It better not be down me and the shop monster get up every morning after we go walk and sit and drink coffee while reading the post from those two. but its getting old!
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video of todays shenanigans in the shed

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25 minutes to get cast iron up to melt? That furnace of your'n is a "get'er done unit" fo' sho'!!! :-) I'm well impressed.
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Daves the man :)
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dallen wrote:Pat and Glumpy have probably caused the server to overload. No its up and running I was just there.

It better not be down me and the shop monster get up every morning after we go walk and sit and drink coffee while reading the post from those two. but its getting old!
I just read the battle that's going on on AA, all I can say is WOW. There have been a few comments and options on here plus AA that I don't agree with, but I live with that, I also live with the fact that a lot of people don't agree with the way that I think on a lot of matters. On AA there have been a few people that think there they own the show, (one main offender who has gone missing and shall remain nameless) and think they can treat people in anyway that they think, we're ALL different, we ALL have different ideas, surly on a public forum we can all get along, and that my friends is why I love this place so much,its a small family and we get along :)
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F.C. wrote:25 minutes to get cast iron up to melt? That furnace of your'n is a "get'er done unit" fo' sho'!!! :-) I'm well impressed.
the iron usually is about half melted by the 25 minute mark, a lot depends on if the scrap is thick like me or thin like the shop monster. Anyway it was about 50 miuntes total from lighting the burner to pulling and pouring the mold. just wish that damn bearing housing would of had the grease zerk in it. thing pissed molten cast iron all over my extension cord.

[quote="mite5255
I just read the battle that's going on on AA, all I can say is WOW. There have been a few comments and options on here plus AA that I don't agree with, but I live with that, I also live with the fact that a lot of people don't agree with the way that I think on a lot of matters. On AA there have been a few people that think there they own the show, (one main offender who has gone missing and shall remain nameless) and think they can treat people in anyway that they think, we're ALL different, we ALL have different ideas, surly on a public forum we can all get along, and that my friends is why I love this place so much,its a small family and we get along :)[/quote]


you would think that people would just to like they do when they don't like whats on the Television and just change the channel. This got to the point that it was like your neighbors house is on fire so I'll go help him and throw some gas on the thing.

Anyway I get a kick out of it, but it looks like someone finally got it up to the gills which is a damn shame cause now me and the shop monster is going to have to find something else funny to read.

And Thanks for the compliment on the casting, I'm going to make another one about twice as long, if my flask will let me. would be nice to have one that would do a pound of aluminum, these little ones if you pour it full will average .5 pounds or roughly 227 grams.
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If life seems normal your not going fast enough" Mario Andrette
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Well, years ago I told anon he needed a girlfriend, maybe he found someone that will put up with him.

I have had posts and comments deleted recently (like the one above :) He He) I'll have to check out his battle. It must be a burner thing, I don't usually read that section.

I guess I might act like I own this site, but I don't, I won't delete posts. I may change a nasty word here and there to make it OK for the youngsters. Harry has been around and he does own this site.
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I leave them alone as long as it doesn't include me, I could care less. But it gets old after a while and they are grownups and, I mean come on does it really matter who's burner is bigger, hell my burner is tiny compared to what they have put together and I don't see them melting iron. The really trashy thing about the whole spewing mess is/was the thread jacking. Anyway I'll get off the cherrio's box.

Anyway Jammer if you need help with your burner to get it running just give me a shout.
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I haven't been on the other site for a couple years (at least). Yeah, there's some on there who have their shit together and tend not to stir any in others but like it's been mentioned there (on occasion) and here, as well, for the most part not many are capable of getting out of the rut of perfecting the "perfect burner" instead of actually casting something and learning by trial and error. You have to actually cast product to begin to understand what will save time and materials with the next cast. Otherwise, you limit yourself to struggling to perfect the one cast you do actually create which in my opinion is the biggest waste of time and material. Having a customer waiting patiently expecting something of a product is the best motivation to getting things done and putting a stop to procrastination and ultimately leaning on excuses why something doesn't meet your "ideal" effort. We ALL fall short in what we "WANT" as a quality in the product we cast until sufficient trial and error dials us in to what will work repetitively each and every time. Ya wanna build that perfect burner, go for it... but do it on the side as you grow in intelligence & experience making effort to perfect the process with each mold and pour you cast. That way, when you are sure when you've improved your burner performance then swap it out and put your old one on the shelf for backup.

I've cast metal for over 20 years creating quality product on commission using the most simple means and methods imaginable. It literally doesn't matter how perfect your burner is, what does matter is how well your pattern and sand mold will work to fill the cavity, exhaust gases, and reduce deformation from shrinkage as the melt cools and how well your sand will bond during the pack. What matters most is your full understanding what's involved in the cast from pattern, to sand mold, to venting, to gating, to directional solidification, to manipulating directional solidification, to mold manipulation, and being able to read metal in the cast form to learn how it poured, chilled, cracked, puckered, chrystalized, and why.

Every step has a limit where exceeding the tried and proven parameters become detrimental and/or a stall in actually moving forward and producing a cast that'll work. In my opinion, those who spend all their time perfecting something they really don't fully understand are blatantly showing their ignorance, and lack of confidence and understanding of the process all for the sake of trying to impress others of their diligence to explore. They're chasing their own tail and doing squat when it comes to truly getting an education in what works... and WHY.

I've found that there's a select few on that site who tend to insist on representing themselves as some measure of authority, which in my opinion, are no more knowledgeable of the process than those they steadily bullshit. They show up each day expecting all to hang on their every word as if they are the masters, HAHAHA.... yet not a one of 'em have done squat to make a living at this profession. Book smart will take ya only so far. Actual doing and learning by analyzing one's cast is the only way you'll learn how each and every step of the process ties into what creates a quality cast.

I quit sharing on that site a looooong time ago. I'll share openly with anyone interested in actually desiring to learn and turn a buck with this business, but not there. It all falls on deaf ears because they believe they know more than anyone else. I only see it happening here... not in a production sense but in a genuine heartfelt interest to learn the real meat of it all sense. The casts you fellas do have improved amazingly well over the last couple years... enough so to actually be considered worthy of commission and or even greater reward. And what differs you fellas from the others is that you've taken subtle queues of suggestion to improve something you feel is wrong with your casts and run with it with a full understanding (through your own previous trial and error experience) how it all meshes together and have imagined ways to improve that on your own. Now THAT is what's called truly learning. The others on AA take the suggestions then analyze the fuck out of it to a point where the whole benefit of what was offered becomes moot and lost in their effort to perfect everything without so much as trying it and analyzing the cast produced first. I gave up on 'em. And because I never really shared with them photographic examples of my past works, nor process examples of molds and casts I've made, I'm sure they all thought I was the bullshitter. I came to that site, as well as this one, to share my experience and understanding of the processes not brag about how smart I think I am. I'm no master at this by any stretch of the imagination. I simply know what works within the limits of experience I've had over the past couple decades producing product on commission as a sole means of income.

The real learning is actually happening here with you fellas. You each share with each other what you've learned and know full well will work and always with the intent to make a product worthy application and of worth. And those are the fine jewels the others on AA are truly missing out on.

Love you guys... :-)


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